Curse

Turkey Baster · Feb 04, 2012, 05:33 PM // 17:33

I think there should be a way to go back to pre-searing to get LDoA for any core profession. They could simply put a red circle with a line to represent any item not in pre-searing cannot be used. Insignias, runes, and other mods should have no effect when traveling back. You only get the skill set you would if every pre-searing quest was finished. This small change is simple to implement and would bother nobody or make anything unbalanced in any way. Both 15 attribute quests are negated whiled traveling back as well. You're level should be set to 1 if you decide to do this and if you don't finish LDoA and go back through searing it will be what it normally was, consider traveling almost like a huge dungeon.

bleh · Feb 04, 2012, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Nice Idea its just that i think alot of the attraction too pre-searing is the fact that it is exclusive, not too mention having its own economy ect..ect..
to keep it that way while allowing "seared" characters back would be alot of effort.

New Character slots are quite cheap, so i think this is the compromise.
No real reason too allow "seared" characters back.

Flame on for everyone else :P.

jcegt87 · Feb 04, 2012, 09:12 PM // 21:12

like ive posted before , suuuure why the hell not, they given in to peoples demands in the past,why not this, maybelike we see in the BMPs no drops no loot no nothing just go in and do what you have to do, no trading or anything

also i say add title to the GW store while were at it *sarcasm*

let them finish touching up GW2 so i can finnaly play it , then they can F up GW1 all they want

LanaDarkess · Feb 04, 2012, 11:29 PM // 23:29

What is the point of sending back a character you've already made, if it's only going back to level 1?? If it's a core profession you want, either delete a character you don't want/use or buy a new character slot and voila! There's really not much else to think about....

Guillotine Princess · Feb 04, 2012, 11:34 PM // 23:34

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Buy another character slot or delete one that you don't use much.

gremlin · Feb 05, 2012, 01:11 AM // 01:11

Sure find a way for a character to go back in time a couple of years because that's what happens when you go to post searing.

Just start a new character

Andemius · Feb 05, 2012, 02:29 AM // 02:29

I'm gonna say what's been said before.

The only reason I personally would go back to Pre (with a proph char), is if I could collect the LDoA title.

Otherwise it's pointless. But this has been suggested before.

Turkey Baster · Feb 05, 2012, 06:34 AM // 06:34

It's not that I don't use a character slot, it's literally the title alone. I would spend 100k if it meant I could travel back to pre-searing and be level 1 just to gain the title then go back with it and use all my unlocked skills and armor, etc. Meh, doesn't take that long to reroll but whatever I suppose. LDoA is literally the only reason.

gremlin · Feb 05, 2012, 08:21 AM // 08:21

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Originally Posted by Turkey Baster

It's not that I don't use a character slot, it's literally the title alone. I would spend 100k if it meant I could travel back to pre-searing and be level 1 just to gain the title then go back with it and use all my unlocked skills and armor, etc. Meh, doesn't take that long to reroll but whatever I suppose. LDoA is literally the only reason.

Never happen because of how complicated it would be to set up.

All characters in post wishing to do this would be rolled back to lvl 1 and have all skills items and money removed before passage was allowed.

Then having reached lvl 20 in pre they come forward in time again and pick up all their skills and items.

If they thought there was a market for it no doubt there would be a rewrite and a charge of say £5 per trip.

Gill Halendt · Feb 05, 2012, 08:58 AM // 08:58

This is one more reason why I wish the KoaBD title track was implemented as a global, account wide counter for individual titles, HoM-style.

This way, people could work on titles with whichever character they liked, without worrying about KoaBD and sticking to one single character to achieve every title in existence. It sure would have promoted variety, but it's now way too late for a change.

As for LDoA... Since the Vanguard Quests last year, it has become a lot less impressive as an achievement for me. That's why I decided not to move my LDoA character and make it a perma-pre instead.

Not convinced by this suggestion. If anything, I think LDoA should be a pre-searing only title, and mutually exclusive to Legendary Survivor.

simooshy · Feb 05, 2012, 03:43 PM // 15:43

I think it should stay how it is at the moment. It has already been made easier to do, making it possible to go back and do later would ruin it further for all the people who worked hard on it.

Turkey Baster · Feb 05, 2012, 03:51 PM // 15:51

Gill is one of the few that made sense in this thread. No, this would not be hard to write and sure as hell shouldn't cost £5, 100k maybe? Nothing is removed or lost. An NPC can simply say remove all your armor, gold, and weapons before traveling back. Nothing is reset or lost. You simply go back to gain the silly ass title, rather you see it as an achievement or not. Deleting a character? Buying a character slot? No. The point is you've done a ton with the character and want LDoA on it because it's the most boring title there is to start out doing. There is no hard work involved what so ever, it's redoing Charr At The Gate and killing two level eight bandits until your eyes bleed.

I'm not sure if KoABD would work globally besides maxing account wide titles, but LDoA should be global then we can skip this entire suggestion and have it count towards KoABD on all characters. Then nobody's "hard work" (LOL) would be lost or forgotten as if it weren't already, but let's pretend like it hasn't. Only core characters can wear the title would be the only catch. If you enjoy multiple characters and titles at all then you should support this idea.

simooshy · Feb 05, 2012, 03:56 PM // 15:56

I am talking about how it was before the Pre-searing update. That update made a lot of people who deathlevelled for months very unhappy. LDoA is supposed to have some prestige, and as it is now, the only prestige is that you did it before moving your character any further. It's a title you have to do or leave. Making it so you can go back later removes a lot of the point.

Coast · Feb 05, 2012, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Available title tracks

Each character can complete up to 43 separate title tracks. (God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals is a maxed title, but it does not add a point to itself once achieved.)

Because of this ldoa should be account wide, otherwise the wiki is wrong.

simooshy · Feb 05, 2012, 05:13 PM // 17:13

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Originally Posted by Coast

Available title tracks

Each character can complete up to 43 separate title tracks. (God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals is a maxed title, but it does not add a point to itself once achieved.)

Because of this ldoa should be account wide, otherwise the wiki is wrong.

How is it wrong?

Edit: I can actually see how, within the time-frame it is impossible, but given enough time it is possible to do. Also since when has wiki been 100% accurate? :P

Turkey Baster · Feb 05, 2012, 09:33 PM // 21:33

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Originally Posted by simooshy

I am talking about how it was before the Pre-searing update. That update made a lot of people who deathlevelled for months very unhappy. LDoA is supposed to have some prestige, and as it is now, the only prestige is that you did it before moving your character any further. It's a title you have to do or leave. Making it so you can go back later removes a lot of the point.

Very true. I think LDoA should have never been a title or updated in the first place. The vanguard update didn't come around until long after they made it a title. This is also implemented to their first campaign which was released in 2005...

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Before the March 3rd, 2011 update, the only way to achieve this title was to death level.

When was this actually made a title then? Or did the title and Vanguard come at the same time? I can't remember.

superraptors · Feb 06, 2012, 12:25 AM // 00:25

there isn't any prestige in any title other than effort shown for it.

RedDog91 · Feb 06, 2012, 01:13 AM // 01:13

This is a lot harder to implement than OP realizes.
In fact, it would be the most complicated change to be made to the game since...ever.

MithranArkanere · Feb 06, 2012, 02:07 AM // 02:07

As much as I'd love for it to happen. And although it could be possible, at least by locking your inventory, setting your stats and HP and, and forcing you to use a certain weapon set, and then talking with Symon while equipped with it to 'hear a past story' and go back in time, it would be too much trouble for something you can do just by getting another character slot.

Why not simply making all titles account-wide? They are already account-wide in the HoM.

RedDog91 · Feb 06, 2012, 03:38 AM // 03:38

Turkey, believe me, if you had ever tried to code anything for a game, even something as simple as a "if-then" engine, then you would understand why this particular suggestion is extremely complicated.
You are correct that most people tend to counter suggestions with "it's too complicated", but this is usually just people's way of saying "I don't like it, but I don't know why." Now, if a feature were implemented like you suggest, I would certainly use it and most likely enjoy doing so, but such a feature just isn't doable.
Sit back and think about all the things that would have to happen for this to be doable. Now tell me that you think its possible. If you do, you are either lying or didn't think hard enough.